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Mary Heller's avatar

Max, thanks for this. It's dense stuff for me. But I have thought of wage-labor as renting yourself out at day rates. Hourly workers get an hourly rate. Salaried workers get a lease. Either way, renting or selling, "the fact that the worker does not stop working when he or she has produced the equivalent of his or her wages, but keeps on working, to the exclusive benefit of the capitalist" resonates. And it's still a "disguise" for wage slavery.

Being no economist, I wasn't familiar with the three factors of production. From your dismissal of the whole notion as bullshit, I conclude that the slogan "labor is the source of all value" is correct.

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Jim Devine's avatar

Max, I don't know if you know if you made this comment in your earlier discussion of Marx, but I think it's worth making anyway. Marx's CAPITAL is not about fairness or unfairness -- because they are normative concepts. Though Marx's own ethical anger regularly pops up on the edges, it can be argued that after chapter 3 of volume I, the book is written with the ethical base-line being simple commodity production (with a zero average profit for society as a whole). The latter was the capitalist normative framework of Marx's time (and is still embrace by a lot of capitalists and pro-capitalists). But Marx argues that capitalism is immoral from this point of view. Capitalism fails, in in view, by the capitalists' own standards.

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