I only met MH once during the 60"s, I had read his book which left me unimpressed at the time (I was about 20 and part of an anarcho-communist collecitbve -- better desrcibed as Libertairan Leftists a la the CNT in Spain that Orwell wrote about. He was skedded to give a big speech to students at UCLA. I was nudged to go by the Godmother of the So Cal left, ex CPer Dororthy Healey. She had moved away from her Stalinism, quite party over the Czech invasion, and was some sort of undefined social democrat. Didnt agree with her much but I liked her a lot. Anyway, I cannot remeber anything about yhr dprrch other than the vague centering of the working class class as the reliable agents of social change. The ONE THING I remember very clearly, that was 1969-70,. here was a "socialist" talking to directly to students and he made NO reference to Vietnzm --- which was kinda shockiing. I remeber Dorothy, elated, asking me what I thought of the speech and I remember saying he was way off target for his audience. I llike you ying/yang of slow motion reformisn vs insurrectionism. The big question most of the Old New Left can stilll not honestly anwer, I also theorize that because the New Lwft was born in the heat of Vietnam and a jstifiable Anti-Americanism, it still cazanot prioritize rationally what our goals are. Of course I am horrified by the mass murder in Gaza. But I do not understand how once again erecting tens on an Ivy League campus does anything to build solidarity with Palestine let alone contribute to a mass anti authoritarian domestic movement, Guee I am staring to scold like MH. LOL
How about working with whomever necessary in the near term to defeat neofascism while simultaneously building the long term movement for the type of socialist system/economic planning described by Pat Devine and temporarily working to institute green social democracy until we get there, as advocated in David Kotz's current book?
Sorry nobody bit, though I will say the Kotz book seems considerably shorter, and aimed toward those of us who are laypersons, than the books you often review here.
A Devine book Kotz references is "Democracy and Economic Planning: The Political Economy of a Self-Governing Society (1988)," as well as a Science and Society article from 2002
For what it's worth, DSA–LA passed "Fight Fascism & Right Wing Extremism!" as a priority resolution at its annual chapter convention to “develop a rapid response working group to meet the political moment”
Agreed. Though I suspect that given inflation, any Democrat (including Bernie, including Walz, including Witmer) was likely to lose with or without socialist help. Can't be sure of course
I only met MH once during the 60"s, I had read his book which left me unimpressed at the time (I was about 20 and part of an anarcho-communist collecitbve -- better desrcibed as Libertairan Leftists a la the CNT in Spain that Orwell wrote about. He was skedded to give a big speech to students at UCLA. I was nudged to go by the Godmother of the So Cal left, ex CPer Dororthy Healey. She had moved away from her Stalinism, quite party over the Czech invasion, and was some sort of undefined social democrat. Didnt agree with her much but I liked her a lot. Anyway, I cannot remeber anything about yhr dprrch other than the vague centering of the working class class as the reliable agents of social change. The ONE THING I remember very clearly, that was 1969-70,. here was a "socialist" talking to directly to students and he made NO reference to Vietnzm --- which was kinda shockiing. I remeber Dorothy, elated, asking me what I thought of the speech and I remember saying he was way off target for his audience. I llike you ying/yang of slow motion reformisn vs insurrectionism. The big question most of the Old New Left can stilll not honestly anwer, I also theorize that because the New Lwft was born in the heat of Vietnam and a jstifiable Anti-Americanism, it still cazanot prioritize rationally what our goals are. Of course I am horrified by the mass murder in Gaza. But I do not understand how once again erecting tens on an Ivy League campus does anything to build solidarity with Palestine let alone contribute to a mass anti authoritarian domestic movement, Guee I am staring to scold like MH. LOL
Sorry for the typos. Im on a plane with no sleep and am literally blurry eyed.
I should've gone too (disability issues).
How about working with whomever necessary in the near term to defeat neofascism while simultaneously building the long term movement for the type of socialist system/economic planning described by Pat Devine and temporarily working to institute green social democracy until we get there, as advocated in David Kotz's current book?
(or something like that)
I don't know the Devine/Kotz schemes, agree on the rest. I wanted to review the Kotz book, but nobody bit.
Sorry nobody bit, though I will say the Kotz book seems considerably shorter, and aimed toward those of us who are laypersons, than the books you often review here.
A Devine book Kotz references is "Democracy and Economic Planning: The Political Economy of a Self-Governing Society (1988)," as well as a Science and Society article from 2002
For what it's worth, DSA–LA passed "Fight Fascism & Right Wing Extremism!" as a priority resolution at its annual chapter convention to “develop a rapid response working group to meet the political moment”
Yeah they're coming around to it, after having their thumb up their arse for a year.
Agreed. Though I suspect that given inflation, any Democrat (including Bernie, including Walz, including Witmer) was likely to lose with or without socialist help. Can't be sure of course
DSA doesn't have the horses to help anyone. It does, however, have the power to screw itself.