I'm not sure I agree with your definition of socialism. It encompasses barely recovering left-neolibs like myself, as well as folk like you and AOC. We all pretty much concur on the next step or two, and I share your loathing of sectarianism. So it's all good, even if you're putting me in a tent to which I do not quite belong. I'll take it, for the while.

But us fellow travelers might drop out further down the road. Or we might further evolve.

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Social democracy is good. Every reform we can win toward justice and egalitarianism is good.

We need a different end-point vision re: direction. That’s where the “paradigm shift” coming out of the ferment of The Sixties, ultimately led -- after a process of re-thinking theory during the ’70s and ’80s.

The end-point should be bioregionalism.

It doesn’t specify a particular economic system. Part of that vision is the idea of cultural diversity. It advocates for decentralization and diversity consonant with age-old natural and sustainable human lifeways.

Max is correct about incrementalism. But the vision we hold in our heads is what inspires commitment to the cause. There’s a difference between reformism (all to the good, not to be denigrated) and deep social transformation (all to the ultimate necessary). Green politics gives a hint of it. Tangible on-the-ground progress is being made via the ecovillage movement.

To open pathways toward deep transformation we certainly do need to defang the anti-social and anti-ecological capitalist system. That’s why Greens support eco-socialism. It argues for Red-Green alliances.

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